{"id":2592,"date":"2010-04-26T18:34:45","date_gmt":"2010-04-26T18:34:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/irdial.com\/blogdial\/?p=2592"},"modified":"2010-04-26T18:42:04","modified_gmt":"2010-04-26T18:42:04","slug":"stephen-hawking-incomplete-thinking-on-extraterrestrials","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/irdial.com\/blogdial\/?p=2592","title":{"rendered":"Stephen Hawking: incomplete thinking on Extraterrestrials"},"content":{"rendered":"

Another paid \/ placed-through-bribery article by the ubiquitous anonymous writer at the BBC is selling a TV programme for The Discovery Channel. The same article appears in the Telegraph<\/a>.<\/p>\n

The programme is about aliens, and as usual, if this regurgitated PR is anything to go by, it is going to be full of the same unscientific nonsense as all mainstream media ‘documentaries’ about this very interesting subject. In fact, a more interesting documentary would be about the reactions of people who believe they are scientists to the subject of UFOs<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Here we go!<\/p>\n

Aliens almost certainly exist but humans should avoid making contact, Professor Stephen Hawking has warned.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

TOO LATE!<\/a><\/p>\n

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  1. Aliens already know we are here<\/li>\n
  2. They have made extensive contact on many levels<\/li>\n
  3. There is nothing that any human can do about it<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    In a series for the Discovery Channel the renowned astrophysicist said it was “perfectly rational” to assume intelligent life exists elsewhere.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    And so, by proclamation<\/a>, it is all of a sudden ‘rational’ to assume that intelligent life exists elsewhere. ALL HAIL THE HIGH PRIEST, WHO RELEASES US FROM OUR DARKNESS!<\/p>\n

    The next barrier for the ‘rational’ to break through is to accept that alien life has been here, is here, and that there is nothing the Gods of Science® can do about it. Most of them cannot even find the balls to discuss it, such is their total fear of this subject and its implications for their status.<\/p>\n

    But he warned that aliens might simply raid Earth for resources, then move on.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    There is absolutely no basis for this statement whatsoever.<\/p>\n

    They just as likely might treat the Earth like an amusement park or a zoo<\/a>. They could use it as a laboratory<\/a>. They could quarantine it<\/a>. They could use it for any conceivable or inconceivable purpose. The point is that when non scientists (Sagan<\/a>, Schostack<\/a>, Blackmore<\/a>, etc etc) talk about aliens, we must remember that they have refused on principle<\/i> to look at any of the good UFO evidence. They take the posture of ostriches, don the robes of high priests, and make proclamations. These people are not in any way read in this subject, they know, literally, nothing about it, are not scientific in their thinking and should be scrutinised when they talk about it.<\/p>\n

    One thing is for sure; if aliens can get here, they can reach practically any star they like, either in person or with robotic craft. There is no need for them to come and ‘raid’ the Earth. For WHAT exactly? All the minerals you could possibly want can be found on other planets or synthesized…. the idea that they would come here only to steal is COMPLETELY ABSURD, leaving out completely the fallacious idea that human beings are the first owners of this planet and its resources. For all we know, some alien race might have a prior claim, having terraformed this place for their own use. Who knows? One thing is for sure, to superimpose human frailty, culture, nonsense, ignorance, technology, economics and rationale onto alien races is fraught with dangers. Attributing your petty primitive motives to other people (and they are people) is the precursor to misunderstanding and calamity.<\/p>\n

    “If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn’t turn out well for the Native Americans,” he said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    I actually agree with this, but not for the reasons that Mr. Hawking is suggesting. Columbus landing in America was one group from the same species<\/i> encountering another less advanced group. The more advanced group was a criminal gang of primitive murderers and looters, not scientists. Primitive murderer looters kill and steal. That is completely different to scientists<\/i> from another species<\/i> and planet coming to collect plants and animals for study.<\/p>\n

    The danger from alien contact will be (and I have written about this before<\/a>) the complete abandonment of human culture in favour of alien culture.<\/p>\n

    You think we have it bad now with a multiplicity of religions and nut-cases<\/a>, imagine what would happen if and advanced race of beings landed here and gave us their book of philosophy. Billions of people would switch to it… after all, “it is SUPERIOR is it not” will be the rationale.<\/p>\n

    In the space of a few years, the world of humans would be changed forever, the culture of man discarded for the culture of other beings, and if not discarded, distorted beyond all recognition.<\/p>\n

    May God forbid it.<\/p>\n

    Prof Hawking thinks that, rather than actively trying to communicate with extra-terrestrials, humans should do everything possible to avoid contact.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    What professor Hawking thinks does not amount to a hill of beans. He doesn’t know the facts of this matter, has not done his homework<\/a>, is literally ignorant about this subject and is years behind the curve.<\/p>\n

    He explained: “We only have to look at ourselves to see how intelligent life might develop into something we wouldn’t want to meet.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    Actually this is not the case at all. We only have to look at good science fiction to see how intelligent life might develop into something that we would<\/i> want to meet that is very different to us; so different that it would be difficult to communicate with them on the most basic of levels, even though we might share technologies with them. Try reading Joe Haldeman’s ‘The Forever War<\/a>‘ to find out about that. I’m sure you can think of your own examples, science fiction fans.<\/p>\n

    In the past probes have been sent into space with engravings of human on board and diagrams showing the location of our planet.<\/p>\n

    Radio beams have been fired into space in the hope of reaching alien civilisations.<\/p>\n

    Prof Hawking said: “To my mathematical brain, the numbers alone make thinking about aliens perfectly rational.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    When you do the math with your mathematical brain, you have to do all of the math to the end<\/i> and not stop at the equals sign, or two levels up from the final balanced equation. You do not get the full marks for saying x2<\/sup> = y2<\/sup>; you only get 100% for the final answer of x = y. Hawking and his science cult devotees and junior priests all do the math that proves beyond a shadow of doubt that intelligent aliens must exist, but then they refuse to finish the calculations that would prove that they are, without a doubt, here, right now, which would then make obvious the conclusion that what we should be doing is looking for them here<\/i>.<\/p>\n

    Finishing the equation means coming to a set of conclusions that will give us a set of predicted phenomena to look for. If we start to detect these phenomena, and then rule out all other explanations, then we may have found them. One thing is for sure, if it is taboo even to look, they will never be discovered, even though they might be right over your heads every day.<\/p>\n

    “The real challenge is to work out what aliens might actually be like.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    No, it is not. The real challenge is to break through the despicable, unscientific and shameful wall of ridicule and irrationality that prevents the scientific method from being applied to this subject.<\/p>\n

    The programme envisages numerous alien species including two-legged herbivores and yellow, lizard-like predators.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    Back to the PR for the programme. CGI Porn!<\/a><\/p>\n

    <\/p>\n

    Another picture from that set is on the Telegraph article. Taryn Fritz PR<\/a> (or whoever it is) is doing a sterling job.<\/p>\n

    I am now going to make a scientific hypothesis<\/a> combining my observations of fractal geometric forms<\/a> and the results of the small amount of space exploration that man has managed to do between his murderous rampages.<\/p>\n

    In three dimensional space living and non living forms are to a large extent self similar<\/a>, with a large amount of variety. Meteor craters<\/a> always take on the same shape, as do crystals<\/a>, fish<\/a> and anything else you can mention. There is variety in these objects, but they are all self similar.<\/p>\n

    We have seen that on other planets, craters look like craters on earth<\/a>. The same goes for all geologic artefacts like weathering and any geologic form you can mention.<\/p>\n

    Now. There is no reason to suppose that a creature that lives under water on Europa is not going to look like a crab<\/a> or a fish or a giant deep-water volcanic vent tube worm<\/a>. The chemistry of life doesn’t matter as much as the fact that the life has formed in three dimensions under gravity; all life that we are going to find will conform to shapes that we would recognise as life on Earth. If we find any life that does not fit any model that we are familiar with, then it is a pattern of a common form that we do not recognise, but which nonetheless is probably not unique. There have been forms of life on earth that no longer exist on Earth that bear littler or no relation to anything living, like the Hallucigenia<\/a>.<\/p>\n

    The form of life will always alter to fit the gravity of its environment; this is the most important variable, over chemistry and pressure. Pressure doesn’t matter as much as gravity; crustaceans, worms, jellyfish, cephalopods and fish exist in variations under two tons per square inch. Chemistry doesn’t matter as much as gravity; we have found the badly named ‘extremophiles<\/a>‘ that live under conditions that seemed ‘harsh’ to biologists trained to believe the false idea that life only exists in a very small gamut of ideal conditions.<\/p>\n

    You are not going to get bipeds in a zero gravity soup of life supporting chemistry. You will however, get snake forms and flagellating creatures<\/a> on different scales.<\/p>\n

    On Europa, you are going to find crustaceans, worms, jellyfish, cephalopods and fish and all other sea forms that we are familiar with. That is a wager I will make with anyone.<\/p>\n

    The idea that extra terrestrial life is going to be drastically different to life on Earth is irrational; it is a part of the xenophobia that scientists have about alien life, where in every thought and utterance they seek to ‘push away’ alien life. They do this by saying that intelligent aliens cannot possibly get here in space craft. They do it by saying that alien life will not be anything like us, but instead will be totally unfamiliar to us. Both of these views are simply not true. Aliens that come here are humanoid shaped because that is one of the ideal shapes that intelligent forms end up in under gravity. As I explain above, all the other non intelligent shapes we are going to find will exhibit self similarity to the forms that we are familiar with.<\/p>\n

    Scientists still want to believe that humans are unique in the universe. This is a leftover from thousands of years of non understanding and religion. If they truly believed what they say about their quasi religious ‘Theory of Evolution’, they would not be dealing with this subject in this way.<\/p>\n

    But Prof Hawking conceded most life elsewhere in the universe is likely to consist of simple microbes.<\/p>\n

    […]\t<\/p>\n

    http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk\/8642558.stm<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

    This is not scientific thinking.<\/p>\n

    The most abundant life on earth is microscopic and in the oceans. Does that mean that there are not billions of intelligent space faring creatures on the ‘dry’ parts of Earth? If the same proportion of ‘microbes’ to bipedal space faring creatures was replicated across only<\/i> the Earth type planets, then there would be BILLIONS (Sagan voice) of bipedal, space faring intelligent beings in this galaxy, coming from worlds that are BILLIONS of years older than the Earth.<\/p>\n

    Once again, if you are a believer in the religion known as Evolution, it is irrational to believe that microbes can exist on a stable planet for billions of years without evolving into more complex intelligent life forms, and there are many planets in the galaxy that are much older than the Earth. On these planets, the Darwinists must concede that intelligent life would have an opportunity to develop there if it developed here, or, they must explain why the Earth is unique, which, by their own math, it cannot be.<\/p>\n

    These people have painted themselves into a corner. They have to admit that alien life exists or they cannot explain why life is here on Earth. They have to admit that complex alien life must exist, otherwise they cannot explain why it arose here on Earth. Finally, they have to concede that intelligent alien life must exist, otherwise, they have no explanation for intelligent life on Earth.<\/p>\n

    In the corner they have painted themselves into, stands a clutch of bipedal alien<\/a> beings and their very odd<\/a> transluminal space craft, waiting to confront them with their own ignorance.<\/p>\n

    All scientists who mocked the idea of bipedal aliens visiting the Earth will be utterly discredited forever and consigned to the ranks of the people who burned Giordano Bruno<\/a>, or who those foolish cultists who laughed at the people in the list at the bottom of this post<\/a>.<\/p>\n

    The programme makes a concession to the reality of ‘Spacefaring Aliens’ where “…a fleet of “nomadic” aliens enters a wormhole opened with technologies that are beyond human comprehension.<\/a>” but once again it fails to do the final part of the math; given the huge numbers of alien races that MUST exist, and the fact that they WILL be space exploring, and that they are BILLIONS of years ahead of man in age, with technology that we can not comprehend, the inescapable conclusion is that they ARE capable of getting here, they DO get here REGULARLY and the ETH explanation of<\/a> the UFO phenomenon<\/a> is CORRECT.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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