Friday, March 16, 2001

posted by Irdial , 7:06 PM Þ 
Thursday, March 15, 2001

"___________"- this is getting
out of control. i give up.
posted by john , 7:34 PM Þ 

one should be careful not to make assumptions on anothers motivations and/or methodologies. No assumptions were being made; the tone of what was said was clearly sniping and ridiculing. By all means, say what you like, but be prepared to be flamed if you say something; thats life online. is not what i would believe important also? yes of course, say what you like, and if someone doesn't like it, thats tough fucking shit. THIS is what freedom is really like, crikey, haven't you ever read USENET? And as for "this is exactly what we want" there are PLENTY of places for everybody to vent ther pet peeves and practice attack posting, mostly USENET. It would be nice, as an idea, that there could be a safe haven for people with something in common to be able to post and share information without having to be ridiculed, or even THINK that they might be ridiculed if they post something on a subject that someone might think is basically an impossibility. It is RIDICULE that creates an atmosphere that can be detrimental to free speech and create an atmosphere or fear and hesitation
I hope youre understanding what I am saying, and that its clear. This place doesn't belong to Irdial-Discs, and I will NEVER edit your posts, but BE PREPARED TO DEFEND YOURSELF when you post something, because someone, not always me (hopefully never me, jeez I’m busy!) will flame you. And for the record: Mr Akihiro Shimizu said: It is stupid to discuss whether Nessie exists or not. The reason is because Nessie surely exists.... I agree with this, and I don't give a flying fuck about what the biologists, paleontologists, fishermen, skeptics and anyone else says. Just because they haven't found it DOESN'T MEAN ITS NOT THERE, no one is injured by looking for / having interest in this "monster", and in fact there is some very good evidence that there is SOMETHING BIG with fins in that water. And don't forget the OGOPOGO, another monster, in another lake thousands of miles from Scotland.

Underwater and Overwater Nessie cams, LIVE from Loch Ness Scotland!

**
posted by Irdial , 7:15 PM Þ 

one should be careful not to make assumptions
on anothers motivations and/or methodologies. this
can be detrimental to free speech and create an atmosphere
or fear and hesitation in this area. in hindsight and looking back
over these posts it is clear that nothing that was stated was in
anyway an attack on anothers beliefs nor a straw man argument.
on both sides there were statements of belief and philosophical
approach.

this discussion is now begining to touch on many important issues
involving social structure and individuality amongst a group. if i were
to have made a statement that all were in agreement with i wonder
if the result would have been the same. "This is exactly what we
want, (maybe)" -why maybe? this is VERY VERY important. is not
what i would believe important also? where is the line set?
posted by john , 5:54 PM Þ 

Im looking for Mr. Claus Es from Denmark, he should be around in this area...?
posted by Martin , 12:42 PM Þ 

I wrote a three paragraph post, but blogger ate it, and i havent got time today to re type it. I will however, point you to here:

http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/stupid-skeptic-tricks.txt

so that you can be armed in two ways; 1, so that if you want to argue against something, you dont accidentally fall into using the traps, tactics and methodologies of evil people, and 2, if someone tries to argue with you about a subject and uses one of the tactics listed in the above file, you will be prepared.
posted by Irdial , 12:05 PM Þ 

In world, "1 + 1 = 2", I am not interesting.
"1 + 1 = 5 or 69 "is very interesting.
In Loch Ness where a guy lives.
A guy is so tough.
I do not understand why survived, but a guy lives surely.
posted by Akihiro , 11:44 AM Þ 

my aim would never be to take apart
anothers perceptions of the world in which we
live. remember edward teller?

the individuals right to his or her own beliefs is
most important to me however it is also essential
that all opinions are heard in a healthy debate. which,
i am assuming this is.

should i not bother to take this any further? is it an issue
of tone?

i see your point of the why's of this situation though. that can lead
to facism in the long run. i stand by(for myself at least) my
previous arguments. this is what i believe. it is not intended
for all to employ.
posted by john , 12:09 AM Þ 
Wednesday, March 14, 2001

NO ONE
can prove or for that matter dis-prove the
suspected exsistence of Nessie. we must
remember that.
nonsense

i will do my homework and do my
best to provide a more concise arguement
for us to review
This is exactly what we want, (maybe) not straw man arguments. we leave that behavior to scicop and those wreckers of civilization. In any case, its not our responsibility to prove or disprove anything. If someone is convinced that there is a Pleiosuar in Loch Ness, then thats OK, it harms no one, and i am very suspicious of those types who take time to take apart other people understanding of the world.
posted by Irdial , 8:46 PM Þ 

as a matter of fact i have investigated
this topic a bit while in college and quickly,
the ecosystem in the loch ness basin could
not support more than one creature of this
suspected size which would be necessary
if it were to survive more than one generation
without mating.
i will do my homework and do my
best to provide a more concise arguement
for us to review. to remind you: NO ONE
can prove or for that matter dis-prove the
suspected exsistence of Nessie. we must
remember that.
posted by john , 8:23 PM Þ 

DPI Notes - Animal Health - Guarding your livelihoods from exotic diseases

Foot and Mouth Disease
The most contagious animal disease known. It affects cloven hoofed animals including cattle, sheep, goats and pigs causing
blisters on the feet, teats and around mouth.
Picture of animal with foot and mouth disease (4933 bytes)Picture of animal with foot and mouth disease (3390 bytes)

Figures 1 and 2. Foot and Mouth disease
posted by Irdial , 7:16 PM Þ 

As for the Foot & Mouth outbreak, I would bet money that Americans are soon to get a dose of it. There have been no cases of F&M in the USA since 1929, but its in South America now, and Saudi Arabia.

Its spreading like the Andromeda Strain. This and the worst day at the markets for 13 years. Crap.

More Homework
posted by Irdial , 6:01 PM Þ 

so basically i am to understand that a single massive
and thought to be prehistoric life form exists without
any partners with which to reproduce and a more
than limited food supply. this as one could guess
would be basically an impossibility.
thats a straw man arguemnt john, and you know it.
Do your homework!
posted by Irdial , 5:54 PM Þ 

so basically i am to understand that a single massive
and thought to be prehistoric life form exists without
any partners with which to reproduce and a more
than limited food supply. this as one could guess
would be basically an impossibility. and yes, the
egyptians did build the pyramids.
posted by john , 3:56 PM Þ 

It is stupid to discuss whether Nessie exists or not.
The reason is because Nessie surely exists because.
posted by Akihiro , 10:19 AM Þ 
Tuesday, March 13, 2001

I'm not sure that it's possible for anyone living here to fully
comprehend what's going on.......it's moving too fast for
any coherent strategy to be formed..............the possibility
of all roads leading onto dartmoor being closed to eveyone
except those who live on it has been put forward and is being
seriously considered............the big minus for those who will
have to decide is the fact that if such a ban is implemented
then all businesses operating here will be able to claim some
form of compensation due to loss of earnings......at the moment
this is not possible because the roads are open and anyone can
drive out for a drink/meal but of course no-one is and everywhere's
closed.............the particular place that I and my fiance help to
run is possibly going to remain closed until the end of april !

farmer b has spent the last few days being told with insane
uncertainty that yes all his animals will be killed and no, after all,
they'll be spared, round and round................farmer c still has
no date for the cull and the animals haven't been rounded up

the army are not allowed to practice manouevres so will be
available to help with the slaughter / transportation backlog

the shelves are still filled with chinese chicken......has everyone
had their flu jab ?
posted by a hymn in g to nann , 9:30 PM Þ 

dav. -thanks?? funny but he looks like my dad.
i, thankfully, still have my hair! cheers d

anthony and all in the uk: it is difficult for me
being in the states to completely comprehend
the magnitude of what has been imposed upon
you via the government and related agencys re:
this "outbreak". my news is filtered thru the
media funnel of our fcc here. most of my information
comes via the free press system(harvard etc) but
still not much has been reported differently by these
distributions as say npr or the bbc world service whom
i do not trust. i am open for links and new sources.
you may email me privately if necessary. it is truly
important to me to know the truth. pgp is enabled
under john burke (6am@usa.net on the ldap servers).
posted by john , 4:51 PM Þ 



-would mort approve?
posted by john , 4:47 PM Þ 

Mort's Web Show

Mort has passed away; he was one of "The Great Ones".
posted by Irdial , 3:02 PM Þ 

Meme Vaccine
posted by Irdial , 11:08 AM Þ 
Monday, March 12, 2001

New.net

Puzzels inside Puzzels; what is to stop (an interesting "British Phrase®") everybody from starting a service like this and creating an internet on top of the internet, in order to sell domain names? Will this not fragment the Internet if it becomes popular, or will it make everything more exiting, or something that I havent thought about? Check it out...and spare a moment for Anthony and all the people in the British Couhtryside® who are being destroyed by a remote and incompetent government slaughtering animals indiscriminately. If all animals are vaccinated, that means that, over night, it will become impossible to buy British Organic Meat®. Hmmmmmmmmmm
posted by Irdial , 6:22 PM Þ 
Sunday, March 11, 2001

Hello John!
This is evil!!
posted by captain davros , 11:19 PM Þ 

Kraftwerk
Future Sound of London
The Young Gods

WOW!!!
posted by captain davros , 11:13 PM Þ 
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