Thursday, November 10, 2005

such fools.

I hope that now, after the 'humiliating defeat' over the 90 days outrage that the upper house shows some bottle and throws out the ID cards bill in its entirety.

Amazingly Bliar, the (wannabe) master of deception, said today:

Bliar says MPs are out of touch
Tony Blair

Tony Blair has accused some MPs of being out of touch with the public and of failing to face the terror threat.

Mr Blair met his Cabinet after a vote on anti-terror plans brought his first Commons defeat as prime minister.

He told ministers there was a "worrying gap between parts of Parliament and the reality of the terrorist threat and public opinion".

MPs on Wednesday rejected plans to allow police to detain terror suspects for up to 90 days without charge.

The plans were defeated by 31 votes, with 49 Labour MPs rebelling against the government.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4423678.stm

[...]

for the thousandth time, wtf?

When two million marched in an unprecedented parade of discontent with government policy, Bliar and almost every single MP IGNORED public opinion AGAINST the invasion of Iraq, and did it anyway.

The worrying gap between the cause for the invasion and THE FACTS are what the public are concerned about, and the causal relationship between that illegal immoral invasion and the 'terrorist threat' are what the public are concerned about.

Bliar harped on ad nauseum about how 'he made a decision to go to war and you either agree with it or not' etc etc, but now that a 'decision' and a 'determination' and an outcome has been made that is different to the one that he wants all of a sudden its accusations of being 'out of touch'.

What a pile of steaming bullshit.

This is a blantant, and I MEAN blantant example of the hypocricy that is the absolute nature of Bliar, the most venal prime minister ever to grace the lower house.
posted by Irdial , 12:08 PM Þ 

Normally if the Moral Maze is on I'd turn the radio off instantly but last night I was cooking earlier than usual and let it slide.
They were talking about the government's acquiescence to the police in proposing the 90-day incarceration period vis-a-vis terrorism. One of the guests was David Conway from Civitas (an allegedly 'liberal' organisation) who was arguing in favour of the proposal, one of his arguments was that the UK is at special risk over other countries and requires special measures. Then he said (when pushed) that Spain which has also been subject to terrorist attacks didn't require such legislation because THEY CHANGED THEIR FOREIGN POLICY.

He says it 19'15" into this real audio stream in clear black and white. (I'd skip to 18'50" for some context).

Why a person with a professorship doesn't fully understand the real implication of what he said;

If you change your foreign policy to meddle in other people's business you are at less risk of attacks and you do not need to intrude upon your fellow ctizen's liberties to ensure their safety;

is beyond me, but at least there seems to be a kernel of understanding even in such fools.
posted by meau meau , 10:40 AM Þ 
Wednesday, November 09, 2005

In it's entirety, a must read article, a prescient prediction written by Theodore Dalrymple for CITY Journal in the Autumn of 2002.

Any of you, read it all now or again: The Barbarians at the Gates of Paris.
posted by iatromante , 9:40 AM Þ 
Tuesday, November 08, 2005

Many years ago, it seems like a lifetime - and in some countries with populations that have a short life expectancy, it would be a lifetime - I knew some truely brilliant people. They made me laugh more than I had ever laughed in my life, and I have never laughed so much since.

It was revealed to me this morning that one of these priceless men has a blog!
posted by Irdial , 2:31 PM Þ 
posted by a hymn in g to nann , 1:02 PM Þ 
Monday, November 07, 2005

posted by Alison , 5:50 PM Þ 

...the inevitable result; riots sparked by the useless "routine checks" ...

I don't think the police will be waiting for ID cards to be introduced for this to happen on a wide scale, not when the Serious Organised Crime Act comes into effect on the 1st of January and EVERY offence becomes arrestable (and ANY arrest can be supplemented by DNA recording and checking).

Riots by the end of February is my guess.

-

I saw a report on a local news programme last week (I think it related to Newcastle) where the owners of a mobile phone shop have started taking fingerprints from ALL customers who buy a mobile phone, surprisingly only SOME people have walked out.

Can't find an article online.

Talking of television ITN news seems to have plummeted to seemingly impossible depths of badness, and why is it that channel4 has made it so the programme interval is structured (programme/ channel ident)/advert/channel ident/trailer/programme. The bit that doesn't work (most) is the seamless move from the trailer to the rest of the programme, you lose between 10 & 30 seconds attention for the programme depending on how uninteresting the trailed programme is.
posted by meau meau , 1:21 PM Þ 

Mort pour rien - Dead for nothing

Bounazied_22718Bouna et Zaid


Members of Paris’s African community have been rioting in the streets of Paris for the past 9 days. The riots were triggered by the death of two youths of African decent, Bouna Traore, aged 15, and Zyed Benna, 17, were electrocuted at an electricity sub-station in Clichy-sous-Bois as they ran from the police. A third youth who escaped death, said they panicked and ran because they found themselves near the scene of a break-in incident where police began to arrive. The police of course deny any involvement in the boys death. It should be noted that these young people are not immigrants. Their grandparents and possibly their parents are but they are born in France and are French citizens. Constantly referring to them as "immigrants" is a problem in itself and reinforces their exclusion from mainstream French society.

The boys did not have criminal records nor were they known to the police so why did they run. The explanation given in Indymedia Paris by Laurent Levy is very plausible given the appalling racist record of the French police. They knew what would happen to them if they were stopped for an ID check. They would risk being detained and spending several hours being humiliated at the police station - you do not have to have much of an imagination to know the kind of taunts the boys would be subjected to. It was late and they wanted to get home where they were expected by their families. Levy also asks why the Minister of the Interior Nicolas Sarkozy had to say that this drama took place after a burglary attempt implying the boys were invovled or boys "like them" ie Africans and Arabs. [...]

http://okrasoup.typepad.com/black_looks/

My emphasis.

Do I need to spell it out? Britain is next for this type of outbreak, should all the correct conditions be met; ID cards, profiling, mass stop and search of individuals....

Notice how the BBQ is spinning this; the sympathetic language that is being used to explain and justify these riots compared to the unsympathetic language used to describe the 'insurgents' in Bhagdad. In france they saying that,"... the riots are an outpouring of anger caused by many years of living as France's second class citizens", wheras in Iraq the insurgents are just 'terrorists'.

Think about this; if a single explosion destroyed 4500 cars, it would be a huge international event. Spread out over 11 days, its a rolling national crisis for the government, barely registering in foreign news. This should be a huge revelation to all those wannabe self immolators. Nationwide riots, distributed disruption, molotov cocktails; these are all far more effective at damaging governments than doing single event outrages.

A single event outrage produces massive psychological shockwaves but they also bolster the very governments that the perpetrators want to damage, simultaneously giving these very same governments carte blanche to make whatever new and bad law they want which represses everyone.

Rolling destruction, nightly riots, like burning peat is harder to control, effective at discrediting and disrupting authority and, up till now, not associated with 'terrorism', even though its the very 'same' people who are doing the work.
posted by Irdial , 11:18 AM Þ 
Sunday, November 06, 2005

Not the answer

Mehmet Altun, 15

The police come and hassle us all the time. They ask us for our papers 10 times a day.

They treat us like delinquents - especially [Interior Minister Nicolas] Sarkozy. That's not the answer.

It would be good to have youth clubs and other places to go - then there would be less trouble.

It's not good to burn cars but that's one way of getting attention, so people can come and solve our problems. [...]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/picture_gallery/0l/6.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4411192.stm


My emphasis.

If the British are STUPID enough to introduce ID cards here, this will be the inevitable result; riots sparked by the useless "routine checks" triggered purely by "race".

This is a PROMISE not a threat.

posted by Irdial , 2:38 PM Þ 
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